
Unsurprisingly, our plans aren’t for everyone and those opposed are voicing their opinion in the previous post (comments are now closed). I tried to explain that addressing the issues, questions or concerns from those opposed was a fruitless exercise. Aside from the time it takes, we are never going to see this from each others perspective. This was interpreted by some as “the lengths to which I would go to deflect criticism of the destruction of this neighbourhood gem”. Against my better judgment, here’s a little more info and background…
Why not Elmer?
Tearing down and rebuilding Elmer wasn’t an option. Elmer had hundreds of thousands of dollars invested in it. It was essentially a new home that wasn’t accessible and couldn’t be made accessible without tremendous additional costs and trade offs.
Why 204 Beech?
Price, scarcity and lot size. The last three years has ha d us essentially living in a hospital, a rehab centre and now a small condo. We held off making any huge changes in the hopes that my wife would have recovered to the point where she could use her arms and/or legs to get around Elmer – that hasn’t happened yet. 18 months ago we started looking at houses/properties. In that year and a half I’d guess there were around 8-10 properties on 50’ lots that came up for sale. (25’ lots don’t suit our needs as they aren’t wide enough and usually require going to 3 floors). Of these properties, all of them had inaccessible 3+ bedroom houses on them and were priced over 1 million dollars – I’d guess the average price would have been about $1.5 million. Beech was the first home that came up in that period that had a 50’ lot priced under $1m. There hasn’t been another one since to my knowledge and I wouldn’t be surprised if this was the last.
Perceived value is impossible to measure as it differs from person to person, which is why this is such a hot topic of debate.
Why build new when you can renovate or restore?
Cost and value. Renovating and making a home accessible is no easy feat. As I said above, it comes at considerable cost over and above that of building something new. Which brings us to the point where things go off the rails…Value.
Based on the difference in sale prices between 204 Beech and other homes on similar lots it’s not hard to figure out that the house is the least valuable thing about the property (I won’t get into why, that’s a topic all its own). Of course, I’m speaking of monetary value here, not perceived value. The monetary value is low – MLS data and home assessments substantiate this. Perceived value is impossible to measure as it differs from person to person, which is why this is such a hot topic of debate. For us, the perceived value is very low since the home does nothing to satisfy our needs or requirements (without considerable real or perceived costs). To some opposed the perceived value is very high, since their needs and requirements might be about preserving the past. Those opposed could have put real money against something they perceive so much value in by buying it. But they didn’t because it’s perceived value. In other words, It’s unrealistic for them to buy something that doesn’t meet any of their REAL needs or requirements (without considerable real or perceived costs).
7 Comments
Geoffrey Grace
You’ve handled people’s objections very well Geoff – congrats! The little old house had it’s charm, but its days were marked. Would people prefer the stucco & stone McMansions that have gone up on surrounding Beach streets over the past 5 years? Your home will be a landmark for years!
If you get any more “why that lot?” questions, feel free to bounce them my way and I’ll explain the math…
— posted on May 13, 2010 at 5:21 pmBrian Dias
Hello Geoff,
I am curious.
Why create a website with a comments section, ostensibly to take the pulse of your new neighbours, if it is simply your intention to dismiss any and all detractors, seemingly, out of hand?
“Aside from the time it takes…”
Huh? You’ve BUILT A WEBSITE. You had time for that. You can’t address three of your neighbours: Jane Smart, Judy Tate, Pete Mitchell? Too time consuming? Right.
They will never see things from your perspective? Sorry, but that is just condescending. You need to back up a statement like that with healthy debate, not grandiloqence.
“I have plenty to rebut on all of these comments but am wise enough to understand that none of what I could say will change your opinion.”
Prove it.
Oh yeah, something else…King Solomon was wise. You, on the other hand, are in your 30’s, therefore, not wise.
Hang around long enough though and, one day, OTHER PEOPLE may refer to you as “wise”.
Good luck with everything.
Best,
— posted on May 15, 2010 at 12:16 pmBrian.
Beech Ave Resident
Brian,
Wow, I’m all for defending healthy debate but you’re downight rude and obnoxious – totally uncalled for.
Based on the previous posts and comments he’s answered the questions of those mentioned – it matters not that you liked those answers.
I find it laughably ironic that you call him out for his foresight into the reactions to his answers by your negative reactions to those answers.
— posted on May 15, 2010 at 11:58 pmBrian Dias
Dear Beech Ave Resident,
The soapbox works better when you take the bag off of your head.
Best,
— posted on May 17, 2010 at 11:30 amBrian.
Samantha Clark
Brian,
— posted on May 17, 2010 at 6:25 pmYou should read this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troll_%28Internet%29
Adrian Rodriguez
Geoff,
I just wanted to say how awesome you are for doing this for your family. I honestly can’t tell you that I have read through your entire website, I found it in a css gallery, but I have read enough to know that what you’re doing is a great thing.
It’s about your family, don’t worry about anything else. God is blessing you for this so just keep pushing forward, and don’t let comments from the internet anger or frustrate you.
Praying for you and your family.
P.S.
Samantha,
That was hilarious.
(nice one)
— posted on May 18, 2010 at 7:22 amJuliz
Excellent design!
— posted on November 3, 2010 at 1:59 pm